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    I am looking for arrangements that are mutually beneficial to workers and capital owners.
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    "title": "Non exhausting labour"
    "summary": "The funny thing about workers is that they pay their own bills AND the bills of the employer (assuming a company is cash flow positive), whereas the employer only puts up an initial set of funding, which gets expired, and they rely on workers for income, so why do capital owners get paid again and again for the same funding but workers don&#x27;t?"
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    "title": "Minimum flow rate minimum pay"
    "summary": "The problem with minimum pay is the Iron Law of Wages is that everything leads to 0 over time. Imagine a flexible pricing system where the pricing is set to set a minimum break even for the supplier"
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  - "id": "r-302001"
    "mtrans": |

        Gitlab архивирует бездействующие проекты GitLab. и freshmeat.net был сайтом, который я использовал для поиска новых проектов с открытым исходным кодом. К сожалению, они перестали обновлять сайт. И нас заменяет freshcode.club
        
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481
        
        Проблема универсальная. Чтобы кто-то продолжал делать что-то для кого-то другого, должна быть какая-то отдача. Бесплатный обед не длится вечно.

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        Gitlab is archiving dormant GitLab projects. and freshmeat.net was a site I did use for finding new open source projects. Unfortunately they stopped updating the site. And we're replaced by freshcode.club
        
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32338481
        
        The problem is universal. For someone to keep doing something for someone else, there needs to be some return. The free lunch doesn't last forever.
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  - "id": "r-303001"
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        На мой взгляд, кроссу не хватает самого критического момента, а именно времени. Для создания основы для каждого проекта требуется время, и, к сожалению, это самый дефицитный ресурс из всех. Спонсоры будут запрашивать MVP (минимально жизнеспособный продукт) для финансирования. Если у вас нет времени на создание MVP, у вас не будет шансов с самого начала. И только после MVP можно запускать цикл.

    "text": |
        In my opinion the cross missing the most critical point, which is time. Time is required to create a basis for every project and sadly it's the most scarce resource of all. Funders will ask for a MVP (minimum viable product) for funding. Unless you have time to create a MVP you will have no chance from the beginning. And only after MVP the cycle can start.
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    "created": "2022-08-06T07:59:57.750990"
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        [thekhan], Ну, это именно та проблема, которую мы хотим решить: дать возможность людям с идеей, которая имеет логический смысл, начать над ней работать и получать финансирование для ее выполнения с того момента, когда она:
        
        - (А) логически имеет смысл
        - (B) кто-то готов потратить на это свое время и ресурсы

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        [thekhan], Well, that's exactly the problem that we want to solve: to enable people with an idea, that makes logical sense, to start working on it, and get funded for doing it from the moment when it:
        
        - (A) logically makes sense 
        - (B) someone is willing to put their time and resources to it
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